I agree with most of what you said but I would put the Civilised doctrine as tier 1. Suomenusko, religion of the Finno-Ugric people stretches from the Baltic Sea to Siberia. If consorts are available and the Peaceful religion nature and Tribalist traits from Autonomous leadership outweigh the Short Reign penalty (and the player ensures that most vassals are of the player's dynasty), it makes sense to pick Divine Marriage instead of Stability, to get an even higher score from Divine marriages, in situations where inbreeding is already likely. Meritocracy is just delayed open succession after we get to Primogeniture law. However, all the random events based on traits (which drop relations by 15 for those without and raise by 15 for those with the trait) are the same, along with the end bonus of 100 piety and prestige and +15 to vassal relations for one year. Bloodthirsty Gods effects. Some Religions (Germanic) keep +30% Levies when they reform and will only loose it through unyielding. Children of Perun is weak. - Discussion. A pagan start that allows to make a kingdom and to reform faith in the shortest time, preferably, before the first succession and loss of titles. Nomads have their unique nomadic succession which does not split the realm like gavelkind. Questions, Paradox https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igw2ec-Lp6c, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZVIEA1cbSo, UNITED STATES - The Cathar United States of Byzantium and Carpathia, https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/regional-livonian-mod.849150/. Easily the best for power gaming, as you can directly target Great Holy Wars, and don't . In fact, if they have high moral authority, and have damaged rival religions' moral authority with their conquests and stolen holy sites, or control unreformed pagan lands, they will soon be flooded with notices of conversions of territories that are held by their vassals, who will put forth serious effort to convert their lands to their new faith. Germanic pagans do especially well since they get free ships, can navigate rivers, and are close to prime raiding targets. For example, if you want to paint the map, pick Temporal and use GHW. If it doesnt then Children of Perun is tier 3 really, nothing cool in it, I think it was specifically designed to sail rivers around Russia. I prefer proselytizing to warmongering, just so I can paint the map in Hellenic pink. Temporal gives us nice hat upon reformation, and is part of synergy dogmatic, divine marriage which does not work atm. Bn is also unlocked by Jade Dragon, and Horse Lords allows playing of pagan nomadic rulers. Hellenic paganism was the faith of the Greco-Roman world before the rise of Christianity. Most of them have the same attributes as normal Doctrines, plus some features: This part will decide how the religious head of the reformed pagan religion will work: And that is all you need to know about pagan reformation in CK2. Ilmen is also surrounded primarily by weak Suomenusko and Romuva pagans and is shielded by an ocean from the Norse until the Viking Age event triggers, giving plenty of time to solidify power. All other ideologies are trash. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, it is lost. Generic Pagan rulers cannot be created with Ruler Designer but there are few events in game which spawn Pagan courtiers to game, which permit granting of titles or education of children. The other pagan faiths have a duke-level religious leader who becomes a vassal of the reforming ruler, similar to the Orthodox religion's patriarch. + Bloodthirsty Gods, Seabound, Unrelenting. Norse: Cultural one, then either agnatic, stability or blood sacrifices, depending on playstyle. Will it have a religious leader, like the Pope? "Converting" for a day so you can join a society seems pretty gamey to me - i.e. You trade some of your offensive/defensive capability for stability, faster conversion, and Great Holy Wars to combat Crusades and Jihads. AI rulers are more aggressive.AI rulers only convert same-group provinces and only when zealous If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion or morale bonus from Animistic doctrine in first doctrine slot, it is lost. Leadership. Reforming a faith costs 750 piety. You get a 30+ opinion bonus with the dynasty you venerated. Information, Frequently Asked The sun is reflected beautifully on his bald head. Acquiring the faith to begin with requires you to convert religions or use Ruler Designer, and its holy sites are split up between the Italia, Britannia, Spain, Francia, and Maghreb. Toggle signature. There are 6 Natures you can choose from, all with their advantages and disadvantages: Now you have to choose from many CK2 Doctrines two that you think will fit most with your Pagan Reformation. Eastern Orthodoxy, Miaphysite Christianity, Allows sacrifice of thralls captured in raids, Allows sacrifice of courtiers to read entrails, Once per decade interpretation of stars by religious head or court chaplain if none exists, Education improvement synergy and Meliorism improvement synergy. Enatic clans is still good because vassal duchies wont merge every generation but they're infinitely worse than agnatic clans. As for best leadership, it depends. Civilized already removes raised levies penalties to vassal opinion, and Hellenic can raid already. It combines mechanics from Dharmic religions and defensive paganism and offers quite a unique gaming experience. You must log in or register to reply here. I can't disagree strongly enough with this. Generic Tengri paganism allows for more levies. The opinion bonus and extra piety is always useful, which translates into a more stable realm. Also for flavour. Cosmopolitan: I used it once, its fun, allows us to snatch some alliances with infidel neighbours, or non-aggro pacts with infidel vassals. No penalty for female ruler. I agree, meliorism should have notification. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. In the north, start in Novgorod, Poland, or Kiev and form your corresponding de jure kingdom first, then work your way to the other two holy sites. Agnatic, agnatic-cognatic, cognatic laws are restricted. A generic Pagan faith is used in the history files to represent everyone from pre-Christian Irish kings to pre-Islamic Arabs. I may found bridge from new DLC's teaser. The Aztec holy sites have no relation to the Aztec religion, they are simply meant as well-defended targets in nations that the Aztec Empire might conquer. Every religion in the world pretty much tolerates you, it's pretty stable, and you can marry back into it to acquire bloodlines if you leave it somewhere to grow by itself. Defensive pagan holdings also have larger garrisons (bonus varies per religion), making them harder to siege. The love of battle among these pagans means that rulers incur no relation penalty with their vassals for having troops raised. With the exception of the reformed Germanic religion, the faith will also immediately gain a holy order. Additionally, those defensive pagans who are tribal, may call forth Devout Warriors (without ). Ive heard it is currently bugged. While you're spreading religion across the world, why not check out some of our other guides on Crusader Kings II. Astrology also enables Hermetic society which puts it up there with the notable doctrines for me. Unlocks Raiding if unavailable (e.g. but i'm talking about game mechanics here, compared to Catholicism, Orthodoxy in-game has nothing unique really, hell, it didn't even have it's own Holy Order till recently. The Germanic reformer becomes the Fylkir, a ducal-level secular leader similar to an Islamic Caliph. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces. Sometimes simple solutions are the best. There are no Hellenic rulers at any start date, but Hellenism can be revived in several ways: There is one special pagan faith that normally only appears in-game as the listed religion of long-dead historical figures. These doctrines are tied to the reformer's religion. The reformer's courtiers at home, dynasty members, and vassals will always follow in the reformation if they are below playable tier. You have to get a popemon or autocephaly for it though. Raiding unavailable if culture doesn't allow raiding. Raiding unavailable if culture doesnt allow raiding. It has synergy with Agnatic and Enatic doctries, giving us new CB for Patriarchal and Matriarchal depositions. They must switch to elective gavelkind if they wish to declare Subjugation or Tribal Invasion wars. I disagree here. Faith is widespread in earlier starting dates, among the multitude of petty rulers, but is in decline from 1066 onwards. I'd suggest backing up a copy of your save game at the point where you can reform the religion and then trying a few combinations. Most pagans may raid neighboring provinces (and coastal provinces, if ships are available) for loot and prestige, even without a tribal government (which majority of the pagans are). Two mutually exclusive bloodlines can be created by this process. +40% garrison size at county of this religion. Totally fine for religions without 30% levy bonus, but if you want to expand then other natures are . Dawnbreakers is underrated as a way to practice eugenics when combined with meritocracy. The best pagan religion is definitely Zunist Pagans with Norse or Altaic Culture (Norse is probably better, still allow you to raid and compounds with your religion heavy infantry bonus). When I started writing this tier list I wanted to put all natures in one tier, but realised I have never really used dogmatic and proselytizing because they feel lackluster to me. This discussion is purely about game mechanics. Seers (court chaplains) have a significant penalty to the chance to convert provinces on top of their likely-lower moral authority, and vassals cannot be demanded to convert. Great Holy War against a single disfigured child. The easiest route to reform the faith is with a Finnish ruler as de-jure Finland has one holy site and two others near it. This gives me some new options to consider. And isn't Civilized like a dream? Incompatible with Harmonious, Agnatic Clans and Enatic Clans doctrines. You hardly get Short year penalty with Imperial succession. Late to the party but I like this one; for the purpose of acquiring bloodlines. The nearby county of Novgorod has a third holy site, which can be conquered relatively easily. Haruspicy and Astrology effects. B. Doctrine 1: Polygamy: To make best use of Imperial Succession, having loads of wives is good as you can pick the best heir one of them pops out. Just know ahead of time that the owner of the title can't marry or be betrothed unless they have another title like count or something. It also supports early-game dominance - you are next-to-none as a Germanic ruler in 867. Hellenic Paganism : A. Warmongering: I think most of us are familiar with it, because unreformed Germanics and Tengri have it. But you're right, in some situations it's really powerful. (There is one exception. Partially redundant with Sea-Bound doctrine. Access to Hermetic society (but Hermetics still suffer -10 temple opinion). GHWs are especially useful for Germanic Fylkirs, who can select the target and timing of the attack. If someone used it with success please advocate this nature in comments. Can't agree with stability doctrine, tech and artifacts lower short reign penalty so it is not worth to take it, and as I said from my experience it is easy to overcome. This attrition only applies in provinces of the same religion as their ruler, so Germanic pagans won't lower their enemies' supply limits in Slavic territory. AI rulers are less likely to start wars, plots and factions. To help in the struggle against unbelievers, each reformed faith gets a single holy order. This means you may invade territory held by another faith, but still gain the defensive bonus so long as the battle takes place upon land of your faith. Also you cannot create warrior lodge. Foreign rulers will sometimes send missionaries. Knowing that Civilized is the best "peaceful" doctrine, pair that with stability, temporal so you decide your own holy wars and get a permanent artifact and set it to proselytize so that every follower of your religious works to eliminate religious bordergore. Two mutually exclusive bloodlines can be created by this process. Hierocratic and Autocephalous is a good way when we don't want to bother much with religious head but want to have high MA. your character tries to convert them personally, like carousing or something). Cosmopolitan - maybe for bloodline collecting? They keep access to county conquests and raids. "IN THEORY" 95% of the time it works every time. This is just a bonus I found by accident. Eldership succession law is allowed. My guide was more aimed at the casual/experienced player rather than the hardcore veteran (hardcore veterans don't need guides/tierlists!). Funny thing about equality is that you can give consorts to your wife hehe. You can join the Hermetics (without unpausing) via temporary conversion to an appropriate religion (eg. Tier 1: No changes here from previous list. If you have tribal government, it is recommended to choose either Agnatic Clans or Enatic Clans doctrine to avoid Gavelkind succession law. I will explain some of my choices based on how it worked out in my games. But if you want to expand, Unyielding is not that useful . The new reformation system allows players to build their religion for their preferred play-style and to combine incompatible characteristics. Pagans can grant themselves divorces at will, but with a significant cash payment for the divorce and a -30 relation penalty to the divorcee's family. Also I would totally put Survivors of Ukko higher. You finally conquered all the holy sites and can reform your pagan religion in Crusader Kings II (CK2), but there are so many choices now that you just need to look up what everything means. Uuugghhh. Traits inherited from unreformed religion. Community Patch with Improved Genetics 2.0 and Other Mods, Pagan Ancestor and Sea King Bloodline Changes, https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Bloodline#Ancestor_Veneration_Bloodlines. Unlocks divine marriage, allowing and encouraging incestuous marriages. Reformed pagans no longer get a defense attrition bonus, and will incur attrition in the territory of unreformed pagans, except those who follow the old form of their own religion. Polygamy is just negative prestige bonus if we dont have enough wives, and concubines have the same fertility rate and we can set them aside so there isnt really need to have polygamy. With Holy Fury, Zunists can raid after reformation, as long as the reformed faith does not have the Peaceful nature. Another approach is to try new mechanics (to pick Haruspicy, Animism, Veneration) or to add useful abilities to existing faiths (e.g. Similar story with Ancestor Veneration, but with more hassle of sucking up to the old dudes, the one disadvantage of Ancestor Veneration is that we must pick either Hierocratic or Autocephalous leadership (I think). Holy sites: Nishapur, Bost, Cairo, Kabul, and Multan. It gets pretty boring tbh. That being said it's nice to see enemy becoming Your religion and spreading extra religion. Also Temporal gives u cool(gives tons of piety and prestige per month) lvl 4 artifact . Keeping moral authority high is also a problem due to weak realms who often lose religious wars. Hellenism (Priests cannot marry and cannot inherit), Incompatible with Religious Tax and Civilized doctrines, Incompatible with Sons of Ragnarok doctrine. All units gain 80% to defense when fighting enemies in a province of the combatant's religion. They are only playable in the 769 bookmark unless Ruler Designer is used. Penalty to moral authority (-15%) and to mission. Followers 0. After the 1200s, most of Lithuania is feudal and by 1337, it stands as the last pagan kingdom in Europe, surrounded by Teutonic Order, Golden Horde, Poland and Novgorod. Romuva is the faith of the peoples on the east coast of the Baltic Sea, worshiping such deities as Dievas, Perkunas, and Laima. Totems and Dievas have that good succesion law going for them. Doesnt block us from raiding, hunting focus etc. It says we can spend piety to improve curtier abilities but we can do it once per 5 years and can improve stat for one point. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG video game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Interactive. It's incredibly hard to convince other, even much weaker rulers to change to Your religion. Rulers do not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies. Ship maintenance reduced to 10%. Messalianism because it's the single most outlandish religion in the game. Characters get a Rite of Passage when reaching adulthood. When you login first time using a Social Login button, we collect your account public profile information shared by Social Login provider, based on your privacy settings. The pagan homeland attrition penalty does not function, however, against other unreformed pagans. Additionally, Unyielding is a bit of a jack of all trades if you want to blob, Proselyting is better for converting provinces. The selection of Leadership style determines the type of religious head. 2019, Foreign missionaries become more effective, venerate a given ancestor, in a process similar to sainthood, https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=Pagans&oldid=43605, Play To even start thinking about CK2s Pagan Reformation, you will first need to conquer three of the holy sites of your religion. And you can make a chain of your demesne inside the silk trade route. West African religion is a blanket term for the diverse pagan beliefs of the tribes of Sub-Saharan West Africa. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion or morale bonus from Animistic doctrine in the first doctrine slot, it is lost. That deserves recognition. Pagans are able to hold religious feasts (except Tengri/African). Holy Fury Pagan Reformation Tier List & Discussion, Holy Ghost Spirit isnt being talked about enough, Both my character and Christianity are based. For example, players who seek to reduce internal conflicts in their country, but still want to expand their boundaries, could use the following culture/religion/doctrine combination: Altaic culture, Tengri, Peaceful, Stability, Equality, Autonomous. Even as Catholic I would land my kin (I tried to do that as Muslim and learned the hard way via decadence revolts to never do it again). its the left over generic pagan religion that isnt used anymore since old gods actually separated it into different pagan religions #12 you proselyte by sword, not by word. Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account. As I try to have everyone with duchy and above titles be of my dynasty I have one save where I have 1000+ opinion just from veneration. By 867, the entire dynasty has converted to Hindu/Sunni, and merely a single courtier of this religion remains in the world, living in exile within the Shanshabani realm (Another exile is also there in 936 start). Unyielding: This would be my number one if I had to chose. It got to the point where I was raiding not based on gold or number of holdings or artifacts or anything like that, but simply based on the size of the ruler's court; I figured it would give me more chances to capture folks for the sacrifices. When you reform a pagan religion, and get high enough moral authority, other pagan empires might ask your help in converting them to your . Inbreeding can be offset with concubines/polygamy. Bloodthirsty gods is very fun, we can get a bloodline, have our champion win several death matches, and we have access to Flower War cb which cripples enemy economy when we win. Reforming a pagan faith establishes a formal religious hierarchy and scripture - adapting elements of the Abrahamic faiths in order to more effectively oppose them. The default succession law for tribal unreformed pagans is elective gavelkind. Cairo is distant and usually controlled by major Muslim powers. Also offsets short reign. With A Crown Of Thorns, You Became My King Forever. Concubines not allowed. Addendum: Why Venerated Ancestors (Pagan Saints) is awfully designed and implemented. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. PegaluxX. The African faith is followed by the peoples of sub-Saharan Africa. When you choose to play as a pagan ruler in CK2, you accept that there might be some problems (succession, levies, conversions) along the way that come with the advantages. Certain pagans have access to additional succession laws. Btw, is there any reason NOT to take unyelding? Lastly, pagans may, by decision, convert to the religion of a spouse or concubine of a different faith. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Pagans#Synergies, https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/holy-fury-reformation-doctrine-list.1115209/. ), creating negative synergy (though you can combine Unyielding with Animistic but dont cause Animistic is awful). Rulers can order subject to Take the Vows, disqualifying them from succession. Rurik Rurikid, Petty King of Holmgarr in 867, is the historical founder of the Russian Empire. All defensive pagans have access to Ancestor Worship & Choose Patron deity decision. While its holy sites are in locations which are easily taken, most of them lack a temple holding which means holy sites only give half of the usual Moral Authority, forcing Tengri rulers to either build temples or take control of all holy sites. Reforming also provides access to the full set of feudal succession laws. Don't @ me, if you dis. Seabound is just useless without Daring and picking these two doctrines is silly (unless we are not getting bored with constant raiding on our foes). The Slavic faith is almost gone in the 1066 starting date, and the faith disappears from the world entirely by 1200. Reformer becomes the first religious head. Equality can be achieved with enough tech by the year 950+ . Anyway, good list and I have to say I agree on most of the points! They also cannot reform to Feudalism or a Merchant Republic unless they Reform or convert to a non-pagan religion. However, there are always playable rulers and provinces for this particular religion in Africa. Proselytizing is a must pick if you have a lot of land with conversion resistant heathens, since AI rarely bothers converting them otherwise. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, it is lost. CK2 Cheats CK2 Province IDs CK2 Event IDs Other CK2 IDs and Codes CK2 Blog Type the name of a title, or a title ID, into the search box below to instantly search our database of title IDs. Some other day I read that this isn't a bug and it's working as intendent IMO Enatic is much, much better than Agnatic, because Agnatic prevents you from matri marrying, which means any chance to get a non-crafted bloodline is over, and because there are immensely more targets for matriarchal deposition than there is for the opposite. No female temple holders. Holy Sites: If we pick it as germanic, tengri or aztec we will lose any troop bonus that we couldve inherited from unreformed religion. The faith is in a strong position in the 769 start as north Africa is mainly ruled by tiny Muslim realms which can easily be conquered after consolidating your position in the south. Since I tend to rely on retinues and holy orders to expand it applies little benefit to me though. I like equality. Diviner read signs before a war to try to improve troop morale. However, other rulers will have a choice. Once that is done, you will also need 750 piety and 50% moral authority to start the process. Before patch 3.0, Hellenic paganism also fell into this category. The lack of a formal religious tradition means that pagans have a harder time spreading their faith outside pagan lands. Equality allows the player to not only land females, but also to get even higher scores since female dynasts could have consorts, who as concubines provides prestige. More posts you may like r/CrusaderKings Join 3 days ago CK2 6.4K 103 r/CrusaderKings 5 days ago If you want to play tall/stable, Peaceful is often better. I think Polygamy would be powerful. Having young concubines (below the age of 45) gives a monthly prestige gain, which is especially useful for tribal and nomadic pagans. If the last two holy sites are difficult to reach, the best way to obtain the necessary moral authority is through county conquests and raids. Ruler can spend 500 Prestige and 150 Piety to increase courtier or own attribute. This is in addition to the pagan homeland attrition penalty, which forces the large numbers of troops needed to invade a defensive pagan home territory to face severe attrition for the duration of any siege. Hi, before Holy Fury release I posted my tier list for pagan doctrines, https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/9sfvtr/my_holy_fury_reformation_doctrine_tier_list/. Is AV and Temporal actually working in conjunction for you or you just marrying into the saints' lines? Also you can give away the title, the best way would probably be as a viceroyalty. Reforming the religion removes these restrictions, allowing tribal rulers to use gavelkind and allowing feudal rulers to use primogeniture. Agnatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. Disallow avuncular marriage and cousin marriage. The strongest position for the faith is at the 867 bookmark, where the Tibetan Empire has fractured and Bn kings of Guge & -Tsang hold large areas of the Tibetan plateau under their control. Unyielding is a must for small Pagan surrounded by powerful Abrahamic realms. By PegaluxX, January 4, 2019 in Crusader Kings 2. While three of the faith's holy sites are in Scandinavia, the other two are in mainland Europe and often held by strong Christian rulers. Please help with verifying or updating older sections of this article.At least some were last verified for version 3.0. What, in your opinion, is the best aim training? Full status of woman law is enforced. Stability removes short reign penalty, which was not a problem for me ever. Flat bonus to levy, garrison size and moral. The devs deliberately made it so that certain societies will let you remain a member even if you are the "wrong" religion. Eldership succession law is allowed. Pagans being attacked in a holy war by Christians or Muslims may choose to save their realms and end the war by accepting the faith of the invaders. This severely slows down early-game conquest of the typically smaller, fractious pagan realms by expanding Abrahamics. Tribal Islam is up to the point of being overpowered. As such, it is best used when the player is ready for their nation to "mature" from aggressive expansion against small targets to needing to maintain an empire. Low MA will hurt you bad tho unless you're in middle east. This applies even when one is the attacker, and on territory held by another lord; Only the dominant religion of the province you are standing upon matters. The Slavic faith is followed, as the name suggests, by the Slavic peoples of Europe. Helps a lot when vs crusades or aztecs trying to meme on you. Im happy to discuss my rankings or analysis with you guys. Holding the Blood Games in the Grand Amphitheater grants an additional 200 Prestige. )Best religion for gold income as liege : sunni Due to the additional tax from holdings in counties without Muslim religion. There are 6 Natures you can choose from, all with their advantages and disadvantages: Peaceful Bonuses +3 Demesne limit. If you've ever wondered about in CK2, how do you change religion, now you know! JavaScript is disabled. Posted January 4, 2019. He is a culturally Norse Germanic pagan but has a Slavic son. The ability to raid makes some pagans uniquely wealthy in the early game. All Offensive pagans also gain a +30% bonus to their levy sizes, making up for likely lower technology and smaller fort holdings. It is really painful to expand with CBs at our disposal as Peaceful religion. I changed my mind about divine marriage doctrine, it actually allows us to breed new bloodlines fairly easy into our dynasty. 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