August 22, 2018 / 3:26 PM / CBS Colorado. Hammering away relentlessly. Shanann was delusional in living beyond their means but she wasnt EVIL Chris Watts is. Chris was arrested by Frederick Police on August 15, 2018, after he had failed a polygraph test, and subsequently, confessed to murdering his wife, Shanann. I think the parents were used as a shield, the children too, so that she would not be alone with Watts in a small hotel room trying to work out their issues and his absolutely apparent, angry and distant demeanor toward her. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? Shanann Watts Brother Always Worried About Her and the Girls But Couldnt Protect Them, Days Before Murder, Chris Watts' Wife Shanann Was Worried: 'What If He Really Doesn't Love Me Anymore? That summer, Chris had gone from a loving husband to a cheater to a killer. He probably fantasized about a different life for a while. I think chris felt tremendous pressure from the debt and third baby and family issues and feeling controlled and emasculated. To her he was in the midst of a divorce, and by the time of the murders the divorce was being finalized, and so was the sale of the house. Its for a specified amount of time I believe. Based on her Facebook page, Shanann Watts had it all: a satisfying career that allowed her to travel, two gorgeous little girls, a doting husband and a new baby on the way. Three weeks before a friend reported Shanann missing on Aug. 13, leading to the discovery that her and the girls had been murdered, Shanann texted her husband on July 24, writing, "l realized. He also said so, and others said so too. Odd that when her marriage to King ran into trouble her behavior exactly mirrored that of Chris in the months before the murders: Not waning to engage in conversation, shutting down, withdrawing, physically distancing herself within the home, etc. lts only one way emotions and feelings. Cans Natz. She worked at the hospital till 2016, and then, joined as an independent representative for Le-vel, a company that markets Thrive health and wellness products. You are the reason I was brave enough to agree to number 3!, On June 19, she posted a screenshot of their texts after she sent him a photo of her ultrasound; he replied that he loved the little peanut already. Chris Watts is serving five life sentences plus 48 years in prison without the possibility of parole. He was an average student, pretty smart. I believe he thought about murdering them as soon as he got a taste of freedom.>>>Yes. This is a lot of the same behavior patterns people go through when they get abortions. Shan'ann Cathryn Watts, born Shan'ann Rzucek was the late wife of murderer Chris Watts. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. Study up! Yeah, she was a real gem. Chris, we are so incredibly blessed to have you! she wrote. This is the full timeline of his murder case, complete with phone records, texts . Covert Narcissist are incapable of real love and learn early on to mimic. He remarried and has kids. Only thing I can think of even though I dont think he has it in him is another girl. She would have moved back to NC, had her parents look after the kids, gotten a regular ole job and not have been too happy. Do there was financial issues going on. The doc also discusses Shannan's . Think before you speak. He was interviewed by many news channels where he pleaded for the return of his family. He had policies on his kids and wife. I love you so much and so grateful you hung around when I tried pushing you away in the beginning!, On Fathers Day, Shanann penned a loving tribute to her husband on Facebook, and she shared over a dozen photos of him cuddling and playing with their two kids. That was definitely the plan." This is not necessarily true, but it could be true. We can only speculate, theorize and opinionate on triggers and reasons why as there hasnt been concrete proof of what his motives were. She labeled things, yes, but it was her unwillingness to let things go that was truly obsessive. #ChrisWatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Jun 7, 2019 at 8:30am PDT. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. But what made it so difficult to interrupt the happy family fairy tale? For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. Is Shanann the only girlfriend he ever had? She died on August 13, 2018 in Frederick, Colorado, USA. Not a popular opinion. In fact neither was true, divorce proceedings hadnt even started as far as we know. He has Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children. Ok so I have an opinion on this and it probably wont be a popular one but here goes. In November 19, 2018, Chris Watts received three consecutive life sentences for the August 2018 deaths of his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. On June 11 . The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. At first, Christ had told the police that he did not know where his wife and two daughters were and he hadnt seen his wife since he left for the work at 5:15 am on August 13. So why didnt Watts just get a divorce, like the district attorney said? Now the Lupus posts begin. Shanann and Chris jointly filed for a chapter 7 bankruptcy in Colorado Federal Court in June 2015. I didnt believe it until reading thru so very many sites and articles like these with comment sections and such. They added that they feared that the release of the film will only increase the harassment that they had already been receiving. After he strangled her Chris said. Shannan's body was . they were flirting long before they ever hooked up and each knew the other was interested in them. Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. IDK just my two-centsit is hard to see in most families b/c not many of us post so openly about our daily lives. Her first marriage/husband Discussion I'm interested in Shannan's first marriage. Said he thought another baby would fix his feelings. Later that day, Nickole went to her house around 12:10 pm after Shanann had failed to attend her OB-GYN appointment and business meeting; she didnt even respond to any of Nickoles messages. "7 years ago I fell in love with you, 5 years ago I married my best friend, my soul mate, I married you!!" His belief was; if I dont make the decision, I wont ever be wrong. On the day of his arrest, Chris was fired from his job. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. So maybe he was just as obsessed with money as she was. Then he meets Nichol, and he does what she tells him to do. She realized she was belittling him, and too controlling, and expressed concern to Nickole about how shje was behaving and treating people. Shananns job and income depended on selling the idea of Thriving. Offline, however, the text messages between Shanann and Chris and Shanann and her friends painted a starkly different picture. November 19 saw Chris getting five life sentences: three consecutive and two concurrent, without the possibility of parole; an additional 48 years for the unlawful termination of his wifes pregnancy; 36 years for three charges of tampering with a deceased body. I . He then loaded his daughters into his truck along with their mother's body. I mean think about she knew that NO MAN would put up with her except Chris. But after years of this I dont think its easy to change who you are or how you treat people. Chris Watts of 'American Murder' is getting love letters in prisonand he's responding to them It was evident in the film that Shanann enjoyed documenting her day-to-day activities for her Facebook followers posting life updates, uploading candid bonding moments with the family, and sharing news about her work. Required fields are marked *. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? He wants to fade into the background. In 2013, the couple bought a large, five-bedroom home in Frederick, Colorado prior to the birth of their first daughter, Bella. I am also wondering if he had some sort of a recreational drug usethe Oxy being given to SW by CW for the abortion could have been something from his own use for fun with NK?! She started seeing signs long before he killed them even confiding in a friend I dont think hes cheating on me as he has no game! Obviously he didnt think it through well enough but I also agree with other posters, he may be someone who is easily pushed over and goes with the flow but having all those strong personality types around him doesnt overshadow the fact that he was harboring a deeper hatred/set of feelings/energy inside, layered deep within himself. Shanann and Chriss Watts with their Children. By clicking Accept All Cookies, you agree to the storing of cookies on your device to enhance site navigation, analyze site usage, and assist in our marketing efforts. Separating was sort of a trial one when she visited family for 5 weeks, and divorce was push coming to shove in Chriss mind to permanently change his life. Your mind (even if it constantly runs in the background) will always be consumed with the what-ifs and know that you have this deep desire for something more and when you find someone that is of the same mindset it is really hard to switch gears and go back to what you know isnt cutting it anymore (unfortunately/unfortunate choice of words as I completely respect the sanctity of marriage and strong support SW) but I believe he just got trapped and wanted a quick way out. She was the same way with her 1st husband. Shannon too did a lot for the family. Tammy Lee, an investigator in the case, conducted the . LEONARD had heard that SHANANN was really involved in . I hate to sound victim blaming and this is in no way an excuse for her husband to murder her and the children for gods sake!! Yes, I said former brother in law, they divorced. I get really frustrated with people who peddle multi level marketing crap and expect their friends and family to subsidize their lifestyle through buying crap they dont want. Only parents can say that. Yet experts in domestic violence say its impossible to know what happens behind closed doors, and social media accounts can act as a tool to hide turmoil in the home. More info here: https://crimerocket2.com/2020/10/08/frank-rzuceks-letter-to-detective-baumhover-on-his-observations-of-chris-watts-deteriorating-relationship-with-bella-and-ceecee/, Your email address will not be published. In his own words: In his own words: August 13th, morning of, I went to the girls' room first, before Shanann and . Height [1]IMDb jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_2575_1_1').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_2575_1_1', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top right', relative: true, offset: [10, 10], });: 5 5. So theres a match between a victim siding with a victim. The documentary investigates the 2018 crimes of Chris Watts, 35, who brutally killed his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and their two daughters Bella, four and Celeste aged three. Meanwhile Chris was looking for someone else, he was just sick of her and all her BS. Granted, this is much, much worse than that, but there may be a clue to the criminal psychology in the family dynamics. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts. And so I agree with you Holly that five week taste of freedom sealed the deal, and he couldnt go back to business as usual. She would have received spousal support but there is a time limit on that. Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? Shanann Watts was born on January 10, 1984 in Clifton, New Jersey, USA. But I could be wrong. After the film was released, Shananns family condemned the film and said that the filmmakers were only making money off the case. Thank you so much, Your email address will not be published. He has changed. Hes the best dad us girls could ask for.. She did her schooling from Pinecrest High School in Southern Pines. She added that domestic violence does not have to be physical. They met when she was in high school and he was in law school. I need you to meet me halfway. Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. Chris Watts has been arrested and charged with murder in connection with the deaths of Shanann, Bella, and Celeste. The documentary, entitled American Murder: The Family Next Door, began streaming on September 30. If you look at photos of their dining room before the bankruptcy you can see a beautiful black dining set with side board and Im not talking cheap stuff here as I would say the set was a minimum of $5-7000. In an interview with a. , Christopher said he and his wife had an emotional conversation before her disappearance, and he pleaded for her and the kids to come home. Many have called him a monster, a psychopath, or just pure evil. In 2015, Shanann and Chris Watts filed for bankruptcy, listing their liabilities at $400,000. I am so very sorry all of this happened but perhaps it gives pause for thought when making decisions. I think that was the form her OCD took. Chris and Shanann were from small towns in North Carolina. They were a family. So I do wonder did Shanann ever really acknowledge why Chris may have been unhappy? In a fit of rage, Chris strangulated Shanann and took the three dead bodies to a remote oil-storage site, Anadarko Petroleum, where he was employed before. I guess what I cant get my mind around is how he moved from wanting out to strangling those little girls and his wife. There she is chatting merrily with her mother about how they may go to the Mediterranean next year and how the water is nicer other places theyve been. In his eyes they had to go all of them and I believe he thought about murdering them as soon as he got a taste of freedom. No one has been able to fathom Chris Watts' motive - until now Two Face is available now exclusively on Amazon Kindle Unlimited. Nickole Utoft Atkinson, Friend, and Colleague of Shanann Watts. Youre right, Emma, about there being a lack of grief. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. She ruled EVERY aspect of their lives and he complied with it all. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. Separation comes up 38 times in the discovery, and 8 times [separate or separating] in the CBI Report. He was denied bail at his first court appearance. All parents would want the best education for their children. Shanann Watts/Netflix/2020. Married 5 years and 9 months. Well, it may be because Shanann didnt want to, and thought she could sort of control Watts into not going through with it. The only negative thing he had to say was that Chris was extremely quiet and that sometimes he would basically have to pry a response out of him. She would contact CW and NKs employer outing them and she would stir up ANY kind of shit she could even if it would be detrimental to her own children. Shanann was born to Frank Rzucek and Sandra Rzucek. On the morning of Aug. 7, just six days before was she . Shanann thought or hoped the marriage was stuttering slightly. I dont buy him snapping, as you mentioned on a previous post, after Shanann threatened him with never seeing his kids again. He was charged with five counts . Like a mercy killing. You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. It amazes me to see photos and videos of Bella and CeeCee and the love they had for one another is plain to see. I agree on all counts. It seemed choreographed. CW family did it about her from the start without even giving her a chance. . If so, nice of him not to say so. He wants out but. I think it had more to do with her controlling ways and if she knew in her heart that was why he was becoming distant or non-communicative, she really didnt know how to change that about herself, and instead amped it up until co-existing with her became unbearable to him. I read a study on LIVID COERCIVE killers who are motivated by anger and rageshowing control issues (recent) and may have abusive tendencies and have issues achieving their self-worth and authority within the home. The bankruptcy case was closed in October 2015. Obviously he came to this conclusion and carried it out. She even brings it up again in the love letter she left for him. Many commenters expressed shock that a father who, by online accounts, appeared to love his family so much could brutally take their lives, as police have alleged. People with less than 2 brain cells should not be allowed to comment on public posts. She had a brother named Frankie Rzucek. The American cable channel Lifetime released a film called Chris Watts: Confessions of a Killer on January 26, 2020. A Timeline Of Chris And Shanann Watts' Marriage, Shanann Watts worked for a multi-level marketing company. Hes passive, a yes man, doesnt want confrontation. Even though the family had issues before their tragic endthey filed for bankruptcy in 2015 friends and neighbors called them the "perfect" family,per The Coloradan. Chris initially cooperated with police and. Thats bad enough in private, in a marriage, imagine what it feels like to see that on social media from your partner. ; she had already spent several *5* or so weeks without him before and that was the unfortunate reasoning for the freedom to start his affair with NK. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. On August 13, 2018, Watts strangled his wife, Shanann, in their 4,177-square-foot home. Often that doesnt come across very popular, and some people dont like what they hear. If that were true I dont think he would have killed them as well. They met in 2010 through mutual friends and married in November 2012. It is the fear of being discovered, of having to change your life or give something up. The film features the story of the case and stars Sean Kleier and Ashley Williams as Chris Watts and Shanann Watts, respectively. He went from being a loving husband excited to welcome a new baby to his family to a man cheating on his wife to a man who murdered his wife and daughters and dumped them in an oil field. Shanann was still very good friends with her ex husbands mother too. [2]The Denver Post jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_2575_1_2').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_2575_1_2', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top right', relative: true, offset: [10, 10], }); Watts Murder Case Being Discussed on Dr. Oz Show. IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? In BENEATH THE OIL, for the first time the full extent of how Chris Watts was locked-in is revealed, as well as why he may have broken out of his deeply dysfunctional marriage the way he did. 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